Non- animal tested St. Ives alternative?

Feb 22, 2015

Stephanie M.

Hey everyone!!

So I am in LOVE with the St. Ives Lemon and Mandarin scrub, but as I am trying to use more products that are anti-animal testing, I am finding it hard to find a similar alternative for this scrub! Unilever which is the parent to many, MANY brands, says they use animal testing in small quantities, but I am trying to be animal-testing free! Also if anyone has any suggestions for other non-animal tested skincare/makeup please let me know :)

Thank you! xox

Feb 22, 2015

Stephanie M.

Really?! Thats so unethical!!

Feb 22, 2015

Emily W.

Every ingredient is tested on animals at some point. No exceptions. If the company isn't testing themselves, their suppliers are. If those suppliers aren't, someone else did at some point.

"Cruelty-free" is an advertising gimmick, just like "natural" and "organic".

Feb 22, 2015

Diana T.

That's not true - some smaller independent companies do not animal test - on the leaping bunny website it shows you the level of cruelty free that all brands who have the logo claim to be - it will tell you if their parent company tests on animals, etc - for example lush is an independent company not owned by any parent company and they do not test on animals - they have some great scrubs that you can get and try out.

Feb 22, 2015

Diana T.

Also the EU has completely banned animal testing so any company based in the EU cannot animal test - it's the ones that sell to or manufacture in China (a country that requires animal testing) that you should question - because those companies are obviously animal testing.

Feb 22, 2015

Jamie D.

I was under the same impression as Emily W.

Basically, even if that company doesn't test on animals, at some point those ingredients musta have been tested on animals, even if it was by a supplier or another cosmetic brand, because they're required to pass certain testing requirements before they're deemed "safe" to be sold and applied to skin. But I'm from the USA, so I don't know if the regulations are different elsewhere.

Feb 22, 2015

Jamie D.

I might be wrong though, I'm no expert.
Also the typos in that are bother me 😂

Feb 22, 2015

Jamie D.

***bothering gosh darn it!

Feb 22, 2015

Emma A.

There are other ways of testing ingredients then testing on animals. And it frustrates me when countries like china require this. Because animals react differently than a human would! Also, just because we have tested it on an animal and it is deemed 'safe' why do people still come out with allergic reactions?!
However, In the EU there is a ban as Diana has mentioned and st Ives is quite popular here so it is about as cruelty free as they come.
On a side note I really like lush'a salt scrub and I'm pretty sure that's cruelty free

Feb 22, 2015

Emma A.

Also I am under the impression that products like MAC which I presume you can buy in china and also in the UK have been tested at some point, but they were old products, it's anything new that comes in and Mac hasn't actually brought out a lot of products in the past year or so when it was introduced. I would believe that any new products that go on sale in china will be therefore different?

Feb 22, 2015

Diana T.

Does MAC claim to be cruelty free? I didn't know they were but I would assume any companies selling in China do animal testing since its required for all products sold there - maybe they will only sell the old stuff there.

Feb 22, 2015

Lama K.

Lush has really great skincare products that are all natural and cruelty free. I think it's a very ethical company and I've never used anything from them that I did not like

Feb 22, 2015

Emily B.

Honestly, go to a reliable reputable source and look it up. There will be a few countries where animal testing for products is banned. I did see a post on here the other day and it mentioned that in her country it is banned. However, in regards to other comments, whether or not it is tested done people will react because not everyone is the same. It's the same as at the doctor. Some people are allergic to medication others are not, based on our body and is interpretation of something put into or in it. St Ives dies animal test now, in small quantities they say, because Unilever does. I can't use the products note because the formula changed between my old bottle jar and my new one and the new one is more perfume and oil versus the old. More than a little changed.

Feb 22, 2015

Shelley W.

China is actually moving away from animal testing. I've been watching the whole animal testing situation for 10 years now and slowly but surely a lot of countries are banning it. Its just mainstream media isn't discussing it. I learn from fellow chemists and formulators and cosmetic industry journals that aren't available to the public. As far as looking for alternative products...check out 100% Pure...they are environmentally sound and they are a cruelty free brand. The pineapple enzyme peel is awesome and is a lot cheaper than my beloved AmorePacific Enzyme Peel.

Feb 24, 2015

Diana T.

Cocoa that was a really bad stereotype right there because you just said that these countries eat dogs and cats for food - well when you are dirt poor and have nothing else to eat but there are stray dogs and cats running around - it's not a stretch to assume that you would try to eat them too... When you are that poor - any and all animals are fair game for food - at least they are eating them instead of starving to death and not just testing beauty products on them for fun - the struggle to find food in 3rd world countries is a real shame and for you to think it's wrong for a starving human being to eat an animal for food is hypocritical of you - especially if you eat any type of animal meats - it's the same thing no matter what breed of animal it is - we all are eating animals for food - so don't go and say asian people are bad for eating dogs and cats when the alternative is starving to death