Milk of Magnesia question/ help?

Nov 19, 2011

Cameron R.

I have actually had better luck using things formulated for dry skin, on my normally oily face, instead of mattifying/oily-skin products. Restoring your skins PH level with a gentle toner and appropriately moisturizing right after, will help keep your sebaceous under control and happy.

Sorry so much information! My uncle is a dermatologist, and I practically lived at the Derm's office for awhile when I was in high school

Nov 19, 2011

Sabrinna S.

before with the Clinique Moisturizing Gel I was using the CLinique 3-step regimen. Currently Im using the Murad Acne Complex System (complete from cleanser, toner and moisturizer). What does the grapeseed oil do? Oh no, dont apologize, im happy with the information! It really helps a lot :) I guess I am over drying my skin with the Murad System, though it does help me with my breakouts, it just doesnt help much with my oily skin.

Nov 19, 2011

Cameron R.

You should really go see a dermatologist if you haven't. It was the best thing my parents ever did for me when I was younger. Grapeseed oil moisturizes and works great to prevent and repair wrinkles. It helps smooth out fine lines around my eyes, and gets rid of those annoying small bumps on my dark circles. I get it at Whole Foods for like 5 Dollars for a bottle. You can also use it as a heat protectant on your hair as it has a very high smoke point!

Nov 19, 2011

Sabrinna S.

I guess i should, lol, ive been holding it off as i currently dont have the budget for it. but i shall save up! :) and omg, i do get small bumps under my eyes! i shall try that out! :D thank you so much! 

Nov 19, 2011

Cameron R.

Your welcome! If you have health benefits, the dermatologist is pretty inexpensive unless you get treatments done. I think I pay like $20.00 everytime I visit, and then my Differin prescription is $25.00 everytime I fill it. 

Nov 19, 2011

Sabrinna S.

hmm i could check, i do have insurance :)

Nov 20, 2011

Drea L.

*Jumping in just to say how much this topic is helping me just by reading* lol

Nov 20, 2011

Angel M.

Okay, I'm back to apologize since I was in a rush yesterday I wasn't able to read all the responses and because of that I missed some key information therefore, I don't feel I was too helpfull...with more information now I'm hoping to give you a little more detailed advice. You're issue if certainly a skin care one and not a primer or foundation issue. (BTW dimethicone is silicone so it cyclomethicone...essentially anything that ends is cone. I don't care how mattifying it says it is...avoid it.) Camerons advice about using products for normal skin types is food for thought. To break down the logic further. I use very stripping products durning the day because I NEED for my makeup to last and I can not allow for break outs. So in the morning I'm washing with gel or foam cleansers (great for oily skin types), I tone with astringents like Clinique Acne solution or step 4 toner or shiseido pureness toner etc. I mositurize with a light weight gel moisturizer either shiseido pureness gel-cream, origins make a difference rejunivating gel (helps with discoloration), DDF ultra-light oil free moisturizing dew or the Shiseido Eudermine (water). I follow with matte (silicone free) primers, oil free and mattifying foundations, drying powders etc. At night (when my body is going through the restorative process) it is essential for me to restore the moisture I depleated from my skin all day. So at night my skin care regi is VERY different. I am slathering on the old lady creams. I'm washing my face with milk and oil cleansers, using enriched moisture toners and loading up on emollient moisturizers. I can not rob my skin of hydration all day, every day, day and night and expect it to give me optimal results. My skin does not want to be dry and it will do everything in its power to fight against me so this method is a happy balance. During the day when I need to have my sebaceous glands operating at a minimum I go for the drying products but at night when my skin is restoring and needing the moisture the most I'm packing it on to the point where I almost stick to my pillow case at night. This is finding balance in your skin care and a happy balance is ideal. A person with dry skin should not try to be oily just as a person with oily skin should not try to be dry. Thoughout the day I get the break through shine. Not nearly as much as it would be if I used drying products day and night but I'm okay with that. It's nothing that a blotting tissue or a light stroke of my synthetic buffing brush can't eliminate. Remember what I said about embracing your oil. I would be more uneasy if I went a whole day with dry skin. That's putting it mildly...I would freak the hell out in panic.
Finally, bumps under the skin sounds like cystic acne...invest in a DDF Revolve cleansing tool and use it in the hot shower when the pores are open. Might also want to consider certain birth control which can also help with that condition...talk to your doctor about that one but the Revolve things in the shower will work wonders even if the ance is not cystic. I hope that helps you a bit more Sabrinna and good luck in your skin care journey.

BTW; About the Monistat thing...I carry it in my kit. I think it cost like 7 bucks and works as good as most high end face primers the key ingredient being the dimethicone. Not so good on my skin but works wonders on other. But then again, I also carry a small (drammed) bottle of the milk of magnesia for people with oily skin and it is a mircale worker.

Nov 20, 2011

Shelley W.

Cameron R. and Angel M. have hit it on the nose in regards to dealing with oily skin. If you two need second careers I think one in the dermo field is your spot to be in. :)

Nov 22, 2011

Sabrinna S.

thank you Angel! you really are an angel, thats a lot of helpful information! :D Although i have a few more questions, what mattifying (non silicone) primer would you recommend to me? and ive been thinking about buying clarisonic. how does that compare to the DDF? is the DDF better? Thank you so much for all the help :)

Nov 22, 2011

Angel M.

I hate to sound like a broken record but CARGO has a silicone free primer that is more along the skin care line than it is makeup since it has active ingredients that treat the skin. Next bit of information is copied directly from their site:

A light-weight and comfortable oil-free and silicone-free primer. Does not leave a heavy, oily or 'mask' type feeling that most primers do. All the glow, none of the shine! CARGO's blu_ray Activating Face Primer reduces shine, refines pores and visibly reduces wrinkles. This revolutionary formula is silicone-free and paraben-free. See results in an instant. See better looking skin in 30 days. Clinically proven. Ingredients: Aqua (water), butylene glycol, silica, glycerin, acrylates copolymer, sodium polyacrylate, methyl methacrylate crosspolymer, phenoxyethanol, maris aqua (sea water), ethylhexylglycerin, centella asiatica extract, echinacea purpurea extract, enantia chlorantha barkextract, lens esculenta (lentil) seed extract, o-cymen-5-ol,polyurethane-40, oleanolic acid.

About the DDF Revolve in comparison to the Clarisonic...I have them both and I'm surprisingly happier with the Revolve as opposed to the Clarisonic. (I say suprisingly because the Revolve was $100 less) Super quick story...well 1 thing when you first start using a cleansing system you will get little break outs (its kind of like getting a facial), it's because you are now cleansing the skin deeper than you were before and all the gunk in coming to the surface. When I switched from the Clarisonic to the Revolve I notice a lot of break outs...all the dirt that the clarisonic wasn't getting :-( Another huge point of difference is I got turned on to the Revolve by dermatologist who basically told me that they all use the Revolve because it's made by dermatologist...people who know about skin where as the Clarisonic is made by dentist...people who know teeth. I did a review on the revolve and pointing out some key differences and I'll post the link below:

http://youtu.be/tdRQbyJBo_o

Now my best friend who also had the clarisonic loved my skin after using the Revolve so she wanted one but just purchased the clarisonic 3 months prior. The Olay cleansing system (I've heard, so don't quote me) is made by DDF and cost $29.99 and it fits the same replacement brush heads as the Revolve. I don't think she saved a bunch of money since she got the olay tool and the revolve replacement kit which came to $79.99 and the Revolve system all together is $98 now, so it's a saving of almost $20. I guess that's food for thought. 

Nov 22, 2011

Celeste P.

Just jumping in-- Cameron's got it right! I also grew up in the dermatologist's office, and because I'm constantly developing my own skin care line I work with a team of doctors and cosmetic chemists on a regular basis. Just wanted to add a few ideas to the conversation:

1. See a dermatologist. It's a sure fire way to clear your skin up and help you stop wasting time on products and methods that won't work.

2. It's a common misconception (and vicious marketing ploy) to use acne products for acneic skin. Switch it up and try gentler products, so you're not drying out your skin. A simple three step skincare routine should do the trick, like a gentle cleanser, a non-alcohol toner, and a light moisturizer. To fight acne, all you really need to is a Benzoyl Peroxide cream to use after gently cleansing to kill acne-causing bacteria. A tube of Persa-gel with benzoyl peroxide is something you can purchase for less than $10 at the drugstore, and it's much cheaper, if not just as effective in the long term, than a Murad system or proactiv. If your acne is more persistent, then something with a tretinoin, like Retin-A micro or Differin gel would be more suited to your skin, as those work to exfoliate and train your skin to create less oil.

3. If you have acne, I wouldn't suggest a cleansing brush like the Clarisonic. It would further irritate your skin, especially if you have regular breakouts. Think of it like using a toothbrush on your pimples. Your pimples could break, you could spread the bacteria, you could even over-exfoliate your skin, causing more pimples!

4. Glycerin is not an acid. Glycerin and ingredients like lanolin and sodium hyaluronate are water-loving, moisturizing molecules and they work to keep water at the skin's surface. If you find your moisturizer has a lot of these ingredients, then you're over-moisturizing your skin.

5. Oil-free is also a marketing ploy. If your skin didn't need oil, it wouldn't make it. Like the others have said, it's about creating a balance. Grapeseed oil is a great, pure ingredient, as it also has anti-bacterial properties that keep your pores clean. 

Nov 23, 2011

Dania M.

(Response to your OP):
Sounds like a case of severe oil Sabrina. If MOM doesn't help I doubt anything else will.

I doubt anyone gets so oily normally though so my best bet is your whole body or your facial skin is severely dehydrated.

If your body is dehydrated you need to up your water intake. I mean dry skin is a bad sign but you won't believe how your other organs are suffering. 1 ounce per lb of body weight per day, that's a rule of thumb, but I say 2-4 litres even if you calculate less (and more if you like).

If your facial skin is dehydrated, you need to switch up your cleansers etc. Alcohol-free, natural and super-fatted is the way to go. Are you using Salicylic Acid/Benzoyl Peroxide on your skin? If yes, cut your dose in half and see how that goes. All this could be drying your face out and cause rebound oil, just to compensate for the lack of hydration.

Once your hydration is on point you shouldn't experience excess.

Other tips:

- I actually use an oil moisturiser at nights before bed and I only wash my face with soap once per day (at night to remove my makeup).
- I use a toner (alcohol-free) in the mornings and that prevents me from stripping my face before applying MOM (which is hardcore drying as well!!! poor skin!!).
- Put your oil-free moisturiser on above the MOM and see if that help

Nov 28, 2011

Annalese H.

Honestly I feel your pain... I have the oilest skin in the world, I have tried every primer, facial cleanser, acne product, beauty product, and the philips milk of magnisia, to control my oily skin. Honestly I have given up... but I have found some product to help make my skin less oily. After I wash my face in the morning I use witch hazel astringent, boots matte lotion (target), boots matte primer (target), Maybelline's matte mouse foundation, and Sephora matte powder. I still have to blot once a day but this is the only routine I found to work for me.

Nov 28, 2011

Sabrinna S.

thanks everyone, for now im just seeing what would happen if i switch to a basic routine, as i think i have aggravated and dehydrated my skin and see if that will do anything. Ill also incorporate your helpful tips slowly and see what will work for me. Im so thankful for all of the responses! :)

Jan 22, 2013

Ashley L.

I'm totally a stalker for reading yalls conversation from like over a year ago! But these posts really helped me decide what I should do with this greasy face of mine! :)

May 9, 2013

Williamspromakeup x.

It is pretty good, just read the label before you buy it. I bought a minty flavoured one and makes my face smell like toothpaste. I use it sparingly but really a decent cleanser and weekly mask helps with oily skin. Tried the aspirin mask? it helps control oil. Also those blotting sheets help too - as well as the way you apply your foundation.

I have huge pores and benefit porefessional is the only thing that seems to work for keeping me matte. hope that helps!